MikaS
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29 grams is a big difference in rod weight.
If they doubt that old Busa cant do 200mph on a tank, they should have it tuned, even big blocks see that kind of numbers, at least very close.
i could have two Busas, this new Gen3 and then the fast one.
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JD is the only one who will notice 4.2hp difference, he has the dyno
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10 hours ago, enfabusa said:
300. Gen 1 is 401....
Only if they are beaks, obviously....
allright, so i have lost some 170hp on my gen1, must be the high mileage
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210hp from DD3 , and how much was it from Gen2 ?
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Where did i hear that H2R has recommended hours before replacing the engine internals, ???
One of our streetman drag racers used a H2 , he had long swingarm etc , i think he managed a season or two before the engine failed, now he has B-king with turbo
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Factory stock Hayabusa (gen2) makes 390hp
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5 minutes ago, Busa Harbour man said:
I heard that there already getting 210hp
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2 minutes ago, Mekinley said:
Absolutely! If the gen 3 had a 1441, I'd have been straight on the phone to John to upgrade it to 1450 or something
Yes, every 9cc matters
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5 minutes ago, madmattt said: with the exception on Mekinley maybe
Mekinley is rare individual for being so young, he is starting to understand what power and speed means to the soul
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5 minutes ago, mark3evo said:
Ah but Suzuki say it is improved as riders legs are hidden
so it may be better top speed like a full on land speed bike
Like using double bubble screen ?
Except some smaller riders get more speed with stock screen vs DB , even when their helmet is higher , why is that ?
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12 hours ago, Mcbean said:
Now with a closer look i dont like the rear light anymore.
Apologies for the younger members, but
i think the gen3 was designed by younger generation which is living in virtual world and has no idea of true values, play video games and think its the reality
they cant understand why hyperbike needs big power engine, it is not because you need to go even faster, it is because you just need to have it
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8 hours ago, mark3evo said:
Cuckoo in the nest
This was a good one,
you see, gen3 , biggest frontal area = slowest top speed
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I will wait for the IV , or death , what ever comes first
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Why i do not agree hyperbikes becoming obsolete,
what is better than riding powerful bike from here to sunset, fast and easy,
it is the people, they dont understand true values of life, go after cheap and pointless things, i see it every day
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1 hour ago, mark3evo said:
so who has a 1441 power and torque curve they can post on here
I have some on paper but they cant be compared as they are EU standard graphs, and you are not in eu anymore
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54 minutes ago, mark3evo said:
seems like a well ported head - makes 15 to 20 hp with nothing else no cams
Mika, John
Carpenter makes race head porting, put that head in and you will lose as much as gain in other spots.
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"For example on the previous generations you can replicate that same dyno chart by advancing the exhaust cam and either leaving the intake cam alone, or retarding it a few degrees. (Referred to as spreading the centers) That will decrease valve overlap. When you do that, you’ll see the engine produce a much broader tq, and hp curve, but with the sacrifice of overall peak power. Definitely going to be some big gains there I would think."
Decreasing overlap also decreases peak power ?
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27 minutes ago, JOHN-DYNOSTAR said:
the Americans talk bollocks . spreading the cams literally means widening the lobe centres
which moves the valve timing backwards , retarding the timing, which gives more top end and less midrange
on about page 3 in this thread (10 days ago
) I said the DD3 had gained midrange "probably" by just Advancing the cam timing
which low and behold he dozy Americans are going to move it back to stock Slo8 timing and gain loads
of hp. ,well they will only regain the lost 7hp sad to say.
They are just wishfull thinking, it is basic engineering
and with smaller throttle bodies the game is set. I know I have had a FiNNish top speed bike on my
Dyno with bigger cams and bored out throttle bodies bigger than a DD3 will ever see, so I know what is possible.
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we also did this with Mekinleys bike . once the top end HP disappeared his bottom lip came out
so it does not matter what torque or midrange it makes . if the top end is not there you are nowhere .
if you cock the gas flowing up in a motor the gas speed drops, a cheap way to speed it up is to reduce the throttle body size. That gives load of low speed accel and pickup, response. as does advancing the cam timing on big old bus.
Thanks JD,
i already thought i had this always wrong,
so Suzuki did what to increase mid range power ?
One engine tuner and machinist in US testified how bigger throttle bodies increased power , even in stock engine (gen2) , gen1 was bigger already.
We bored out also gen2 throttle bodies using gen1 butterflies, it was in Petri`s 1622cc , also Juha tested these in his 1441c and found it beneficial. Now they are all combined, its Juha`s engine 1634cc with big throttles and big tube exhaust, we never got a chance to try it on the track.
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And they may be right,
some guy takes a gen2 , do the right modifications and run low 9s
then the second guy does the same and runs 10.5s, i have seen it, i have done it
i am the second guy
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2 hours ago, mark3evo said:
i copied this off another forum in response to Chris moore vid, the author is a tuner and gives ideas forwhy it happened and improvements by tweaking...
Do they consider that Suzuki may have been forced to use bigger exhaust cam, redesign the chamber and do other things because they have exhaust stuffed with catalytic converters.
Have they not done these mods to the gen1 engines already, use different cam profiles, modify the chamber etc, and know the results, what power comes out of certain engine capacity , instead of thinking Suzuki invented the wheel again
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26 minutes ago, mark3evo said:
are the carillos lighter than stock - they look heavy but strong
H-profile rods used to be the same weight as stock, but later they became lighter. Carrillo and Wössner, both h-profile rods are lighter than stock.
It was something like this, i just throw numbers here,
stock rod g1 400g(396g something), any h-profile 400g, chinese h-profile 410g, chinese I-profile 430g, Carrillo A-profile 353g, later Wössner h-prof 383g, Falicon knife 380g, Crower ti-rod h-prof 296-299g
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39 minutes ago, Bazz said:
did that 3 years ago
But you really got into it, i bet the Suzuki version means couple grams here and there
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1 minute ago, mark3evo said:
so i watched it...
what do you think John and Mika he is super excited.. lighter crankshaft up to date pistons and valve train.
says with bigger air box, 8 injectors with downward baffle plates, aftermarket exhaust and that all important RBW remap
what power and torque
i'll guess at 194 rwhp and 114 lbft ???
Lighter crank, updated pistons and rods, redesigned injectors, does not mean shite, 2hp max
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Watch the moore mafia youtube videos, he can get that much power from 1k bikes by fiddling with the ecu, maybe exhaust.
But they are restricted from the start, why, dunno?
I dont think the same happens with gen3 Busa, if its not restricted in US
How's your French
in Gen 3 Hayabusa (2021 - onwards
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He just could not handle true power, he must have been riding adventure bikes for years.
I am not convinced french can do anything right, i have a van made in France