mark3evo Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 40 minutes ago, Martin said: @MikaS What is yours and people you know, view and thoughts now on Finland joining Nato. Do you think Russia will turn on Finland again ? Do you live near the border ? @MartinWhat is Wales view on this you known that Drakeford guy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikaS Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 23 minutes ago, mark3evo said: what are you firing at .... the moon i saw no landing explosions The shells are now on orbit and will land on demand, that is the new strategic weapon developed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 I can only speak for myself. IF it would bring long term peace to Europe and most of the world. Now would be the time for Nato to send in ground troops with air support. The more of Ukraine that russia gets a hold on the harder it will be to stop them. Once they take hold and there forces join up on the 3 fronts that part of Ukraine will be lost forever to Russia. If Putin does use nuclear warfare in a retaliation to Nato, it's not just the west that would be hurt, as he would be killing his own people as well. How many Russian people still belive in Putin after all the lies he has told them. The Ukraine needs our help now not later when its to late. The sad thing about all this is how many lives will be lost, But Covid has made us use to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikaS Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Martin said: Do you live near the border ? I live 130 miles west from the border. My good friend lives 8 miles from the border and he has a plan, he works in a paper factory , they also stopped sending products to Russia, they have these huge metal drums there and he said he could make a pile of them on the border , stopping even tanks to cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikaS Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Martin said: I can only speak for myself. IF it would bring long term peace to Europe and most of the world. Now would be the time for Nato to send in ground troops with air support. The more of Ukraine that russia gets a hold on the harder it will be to stop them. Once they take hold and there forces join up on the 3 fronts that part of Ukraine will be lost forever to Russia. If Putin does use nuclear warfare in a retaliation to Nato, it's not just the west that would be hurt, as he would be killing his own people as well. How many Russian people still belive in Putin after all the lies he has told them. The Ukraine needs our help now not later when its to late. The sad thing about all this is how many lives will be lost, But Covid has made us use to death. That would work if we were talking about "normal" leader of armed forces, but Putin does not care about human casualties, not his own or others, the main goal is all that matters, and losing is not an option. What we need is a assassination, Putin , Lavrov and all the close advisors. Then free Aleksei Navalnyi and make him a president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 (edited) Would not EMP bombs work to stop nuclear warfare ? So they could not be launched. Using EMP and having no power is better than a nuclear winter. Just thinking outside the box Edited March 6, 2022 by Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark3evo Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Martin said: I can only speak for myself. IF it would bring long term peace to Europe and most of the world. Now would be the time for Nato to send in ground troops with air support. The more of Ukraine that russia gets a hold on the harder it will be to stop them. Once they take hold and there forces join up on the 3 fronts that part of Ukraine will be lost forever to Russia. If Putin does use nuclear warfare in a retaliation to Nato, it's not just the west that would be hurt, as he would be killing his own people as well. How many Russian people still belive in Putin after all the lies he has told them. The Ukraine needs our help now not later when its to late. The sad thing about all this is how many lives will be lost, But Covid has made us use to death. WWIII no thank you Ukraine will still exist but would have a puppet leader like Belarus everyone needs cool heads here NATO is a defense role always has been UK and US goes into Iraq and Libya - presumably due to oil there - no WMD found - allowed the rise of ISIS. Russia was against this. we never stopped Russia in Chechnya, or Georgia !! but not Syria when the Spring uprising of 2011 wanted Bashar out, and Russia bombed the shit of the turns wanted democracy. Yes Ukraine is tragic and a lot of lives will be lost, as its close to us it i don't think Putin will invade NATO baltic countries or Finland that is a route too far Putin always said if there was no Russia then there was no world it's like a world chess game, and as i said earlier USA and Russia have now strategic dialogue not to escalate to Nuke. kind of gives green light for Putin. Don't always assume US will come to our aid, if it harms their long term aspirations they wont only way of getting Putin out is from is from within... sanctions would work over time, but USA still take Russia oil , why Biden does not want to inflict economic hardship on the american public. When the pump prices start rising they start bleating. Edited March 6, 2022 by mark3evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark3evo Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 it only takes 1 nuke to render Wales ash and rubble. 1 in Lincolnshire ends Madmattt's dreams of playing his Grand Piano in albert hall and all that work by JW rebuilding my bike in Malton, is for nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 We are already going to pay for this with our money, So life will be harder for the UK anyway. The cost of the basic's will go up and up. Shell just bought 750,000 barrels of oil for $28 under cost from Russia and have said all profits will go to help the Ukraine. But thats still a large amount of money gone to russia after they said they would stop dealing with them. And i cant see Shell giving the Ukraine a penny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 If the Ukraine is getting all these arms from Nato members already. What the different in sending troops in. Nato already has blood on its hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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